title: Nerds on Hobbies, Ella, and CRISPR [Link] link: http://www.nerdsondraft.com/podcast/2017/7/28/ella-and-hobbies tags: Link, NOD date: 2017-08-02 15:03:15 With [the latest Nerds on Draft](http://www.nerdsondraft.com/podcast/2017/7/28/ella-and-hobbies) Jeff and I talk about our hobbies and somehow dig into the Daniel Suarez book **Change Agent**.